JAMES W LENZ
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HONORED ON PANEL 9W, LINE 84 OF THE WALL

JAMES WARREN LENZ

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JAMES W LENZ

PANEL / LINE

9W/84

DATE OF BIRTH

02/02/1952

CASUALTY PROVINCE

PHONG DINH

DATE OF CASUALTY

06/23/1970

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MILWAUKEE

COUNTY OF RECORD

Milwaukee County

STATE

WI

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ARMY

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LEFT FOR JAMES WARREN LENZ
POSTED ON 3.18.2015

Final Mission of PFC James W. Lenz

On or about 1805 hours on June 23, 1970, a U.S. Army helicopter UH-1H (tail number 67-17594) from the 162nd Assault Helicopter Company, 13th Combat Aviation Battalion, 1st Aviation Brigade, departed Ca Mau Airstrip enroute to Can Tho AAF, RVN. At approximately 1840 hours the aircraft suffered suspected mechanical failure of the main rotor system. The main rotor blades sheared through the cockpit and the mast sheared just below the main rotor head, separating from the aircraft at an approximate altitude of 1500 feet. The aircraft, with the tail rotor still intact and the engine running, began to spin and impacted the ground with vertical and circular momentum. There were no survivors. The crew included aircraft commander WO1 Lawrence M. Moore, pilot WO1 Daniel J. Hallows, crew chief SP5 Dennis J. Dillon, and gunner PFC James W. Lenz. Eight passengers also perished in the crash. They included SN Thomas r. Brown, SN John J. Donnelly III, SM3 John S. Durlin, FN Toby A. Thomas, HM2 Harold L. Linville, BM3 James R. Gore, MM2 Richard J. Solano, and an unnamed civilian. There are five additional accounts of this incident. First account - My uncle, Toby Arthur Thomas was one of the SEALS killed in the helicopter crash that happened on June 23, 1970. He and four other SEALS were on their way to Saigon for R&R. Through much research in the past 2 years I have been told a story of how the crash came about. This information comes from other SEALS that were there at the time. On the morning of June 23, 1970 this particular helicopter was picking up SEALS that had just come off an operation the night before. As they were taking off, the helicopter was ambushed by enemy fire. At one point the helicopter began to descend, but then lifted and took off and flew for approximately 25 minutes. It then landed where my uncle and the others were waiting to catch the flight to Saigon. When they landed others noticed that the aircraft had many bullet holes and it was suggested by someone other than crew to shut the helicopter down and check it out. The pilot said that he could not do that because they were on a timed schedule. So they took off and shortly after crashed. All those on the helicopter died. The reason I know about the ambush that the helicopter was involved in earlier that day is because I spoke to a SEAL that was on the helicopter at the time. Apparently there was a bullet hole in the rotor which grew with time and caused the crash. Had the pilot shut the helicopter down and inspected the damage, the accident may have been prevented. I must admit, those SEALS were very anxious to get to Saigon for R&R and so. (From Cheryl Emery) Second account - I was with Moore on the day of the accident. It was a typical two ship mission. One ship supported the SEAL Teams out of Seafloat (Nam Can), while the other flew Ash and Trash up the coastline to Rach Gia and Ha Tien. I was the A/C of the ship that flew the Ash & Trash. We would typically meet up in the early evening (4 PM) at Nam Can. And that day was no different. The drill was to draw lots if the Navy had personnel to be transported back to Binh Thuy, as it normally entailed an hour or longer wait on the ground. Had that ship been badly damaged by enemy fire, I would have noticed, and of course, waited for the passengers and allowed Moore and his crew to depart with no load. Moore made a mistake that day, IMO, but it was not flying a damaged aircraft. Since I won the toss, I left early. The weather turned bad very quickly and we were soon in heavy rain, with severely reduced visibility. I thought better of trying to push on through, as we saw lightning ahead and we were being severely tossed around. We turned west and followed the coastline and basically flew around the storm. I think Moore, pressured by the Navy personnel, who could not bear to miss their connection at Binh Thuy for Saigon, made the fatal mistake of trying a direct route through the storm. I believe the mast bumping to be as a result of the storm. I have heard a few stories over the years, up to and including one that has a CIA agent, anxious to get his prisoner to Saigon, forced them to fly a damaged aircraft. It was just a poor decision to take off in the first place. When they took so long to arrive at Can Tho, initially we all thought little of it. It was assumed they had waited for the weather to clear. To the best of my recollection, neither ship was at Ca Mau that day. Moore likely refueled at the refueling barge attached to Seafloat, and would have loaded navy personnel from Nam Can, not Ca Mau. This would have been SOP for that mission. I usually based out of Rach Gia, as it was half way between Nam Can and Ha Tien. How Ca Mau got in the mix, I can only guess. It has been a long time and memory fades with age, but that is how I remember it. Larry Moore was my buddy and it hit me very hard. His death still haunts me. (From Jim Ewart) Third account - This was my ASSIGNED aircraft, and I was supposed to fly that mission and got bumped from the flight for two reasons. 1. Larry Moore pulled seniority on me and requested the SEAL mission. 2. The aircraft was supposed to get its 2000 hour periodical maintenance check at a battalion level maintenance facility and they tried to do it at company level as new policy. The aircraft had just come out of its 2000 hour periodical maintenance check before it was assigned to fly that mission. I protested that fact and red X’ed the ship on the fact that one of its mast bearings felt marginal to me on check the night before the mission. The CO then got really pissed at me and grounded me and made me work in maintenance the next day. After the ship turned up missing CAPT R. and I went out and found the crash. They NEVER did another 2000 hour periodical maintenance check at the company level again. From Eric Bray) Fourth account - One of the maintenance pilots said that the ship had an incorrectly assembled horizontal stabilizer bar installed a couple of weeks earlier and he is convinced that was the cause of the problem. F. A. told me a horizontal stabilizer assembly was a depot level job and they were shipped completely assembled to units in the field (we have no idea if this is true or not but he was certainly in a position to know). In any case, the 162nd apparently had the components on hand and assembled the stabilizer bar in-house. F. A. said he protested and refused to test fly or sign off on the job. That was just a few days before his DEROS and he went home a few days before the incident. (From S.G.) Fifth account - I was a crew chief from the 336th AHC operating out of Soc Trang. Our ship, "Super Slick," was a nighthawk recon Huey. We were scrambled off at about dusk one night, and directed to fly north to look for a downed Huey that had left Seafloat. Eye witnesses said they saw the aircraft fall from the sky. We flew north for about a half hour. It was dark by the time we reached the area where they said the ship went down. The area was marshy with tall grass in the middle of nothing for miles. In the dark we began looking using a low-level pattern. After about 15 minutes, figuring we might never find it at night, we then came across the wreckage. We made a few high speed passes across the wreckage, and did a quick recon of the area. We worried about ambush. We then approached the wreckage and flew just a few feet above. It was very obvious there were no survivors, but we flew over each body just in case. We then radioed our location, and continued to fly in the area, until a dustoff arrived. It was a very long ride to Soc Trang. We were really hoping we’d find survivors. Two hours later we were once again called upon to re-find the wreckage. To tell you the truth, none of us wanted to return, but we did, and found the wreckage for the second time. We noticed that some bodies had been removed. I haven’t gone into all the details, but I’ll never forget that night, ever. The wreckage was moved to a hanger at Soc Trang airfield. It was later determined that a weight inside one of the blades had come loose, causing the blade to come apart. A short time after that, all Huey blades were inspected, with many replaced. I’m also very familiar with Seafloat, they did a lot of Special Ops with the SEALS. The unknown civilian was a Vietnamese woman. I remember seeing her as we flew across each body, thought it was strange at the time, and still do. It could be the prisoner they mention. I know the Phoenix program was very active at this time. (From Tom Feigel)
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POSTED ON 11.24.2014
POSTED BY: Merri Jo

James W Lenz

We all miss you and hope the Lord keeps you lovingly. Happy holidays.
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POSTED ON 11.4.2013
POSTED BY: Eric Bray

We Searched, then We Found

When the aircraft {were he was the doorgunner} was late, myself and Thomas Rodman went up to try and find them! I searched the proposed route that they were taking back to Can Tho from Ca Mau and after searching for about an hour the door gunner spotted their aircraft in its crash site a few miles north of Soc Trang. When the 'medivac' aircraft landed and said all souls on board were lost; we called graves registration and flew back to Can Tho. When we reported that everyone didn't make it, a quiet pall fell over the whole unit. Everyone was very sad that evening!!!!
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POSTED ON 6.23.2005
POSTED BY: Dave Kruger, 196th LIB. 66-67

Not forgotten

James, Although we never met, I just want you to know you are not forgotten. You gave the ultimate sacrifice, your life for what you believed in. Sleep well my friend, and thank you for protecting the freedoms we have today.
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POSTED ON 3.27.2005
POSTED BY: Robert Sage

We Remember

James is buried at Wood Nat Cem.
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